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Sunday, October 28, 2007

History and Ikrema Sabri

From the Jerusalem Post:

‘Western Wall was never part of temple’

The former mufti of Jerusalem, Ikrema Sabri, has made the claim that there never was a Jewish temple on the Temple Mount, and the Western Wall was really part of a mosque.

“There was never a Jewish temple on Al-Aksa [the mosque compound] and there is no proof that there was ever a temple,” he told The Jerusalem Post via a translator. “Because Allah is fair, he would not agree to make Al-Aksa if there were a temple there for others beforehand.”

Sabri rejected Judaism’s claim to the Western Wall as part of the outer wall of the Second Temple.

“The wall is not part of the Jewish temple. It is just the western wall of the mosque,” he said. “There is not a single stone with any relation at all to the history of the Hebrews.”

Asked if Jews would ever be allowed to pray on the Temple Mount under Muslim control, he replied: “It is not the Temple Mount, you must say Al-Aksa. And no Jews have the right to pray at the mosque. It was always only a mosque - all 144 dunams, the entire area. No Jewish prayer. If the Jews want real peace, they must not do anything to try to pray on Al-Aksa. Everyone knows that.”

“Zionism tries to trick the Jews claiming that this was part of a Jewish temple, but they dug there and they found nothing,” Sabri added.

Archeologists overseeing Islamic infrastructure work on the Mount announced this week that they had unveiled a sealed archeological level dating back to the First Temple period.

The First Temple was built by King Solomon in the 10th century BCE, and destroyed by the Babylonians in 586 BCE. The Second Temple was built 70 years later, enlarged during the first century BCE by Herod, and destroyed by the Romans in the year 70.

The Dome of the Rock and Al-Aksa Mosque were constructed on the Temple Mount site in the late seventh century.

The controversial issue of the holy sites is expected to come up during negotiations ahead of a US-sponsored summit on the Middle East in Annapolis later this year.

Palestinian leaders, most notably the late Yasser Arafat, have consistently denied Jewish claims to the Mount.

Sabri made the comments in an interview with the Post’s Friday supplement, In Jerusalem, for a cover story on how religious leaders view the capital.

Religions, at least those who claim an Abrahamic heritage, stress truth as a virtue and lies as damnable sins. Here is a religious leader who follows in the tradition of Hitler’s friend - Haj Amin al-Hussein, Arafat’s mother’s uncle. He distorts history and invents “facts,” all in an effort to deny the legitimacy of the claims of Jews and Christians to the Temple Mount. His gaul is appalling, yet not surprising. It is no more than another manifestation of IslamoFascism’s plan to deny the validity of any religion outside of itself, in spite of the Quran’s words to the contrary.

Ikrema Sabri, just like al-Husseini before him, is not a true religious leader. He is, first and foremost, a demagogue of the lowest kind. Religion is used to advance his cause, to spread his hatred, his prejudices while gaining power and prestige, as he incites incite others to terrorism. The pompous idiocy of his words would be laughable and easily dismissed were it not for the fact, that neither Jewish or Christian religious leader have made any efforts to expose his politicization of his religious tenets in an effort to deny the undeniability of history. If no one protests, if this descendant of pigs and monkeys, is allowed to get away with his lies there may soon be some misguided souls who will look seriously at his words as a worthy scholarly view.

…Allah is fair, he would not agree to make Al-Aksa if there were a temple there for others beforehand.” Perhaps. Yet, nobody who is a student of history or current affairs can claim that those who profess to follow Allah, in the Middle East, are… in any way “fair.”

Chaim

Crossposted at: Freedom's Cost

Friday, October 19, 2007

A Perfect Solution to the Jerusalem Issue

[Sammy from Yid with Lid has graciously allowed us to cross post his latest piece on Jerusalem. Even when we cry, we laugh...]

Jerusalem is Probably the most difficult issue to solve in the ongoing Israel/ Palestinian "peace" process. The Palestinians are demanding control of the holy city, the Temple Mount and Kotel because they claim it is where Mohamed rose to heaven which makes it the third holiest site in Islam. Of course this is a very recent claim and there is nothing about Jerusalem in the Koran. Some people claim that the only reason that the Palestinians want Jerusalem is their continued attempt to de-legitimize Judaism's historical claim to Israel

For Jews Jerusalem is the Holy City, and the Temple Mount is the holiest site in all of Judaism, not only did the mount house the two temples to God, it is where Abraham almost sacrificed Isaac and where Jacob had the dream of the ladder to heaven. For two thousand years Jews have prayed for a return to Jerusalem.

Reports that Israel's government is willing to split Jerusalem with the Palestinians and give up sovereignty over the Temple Mount has raised the ire of the Jewish People. Polls have shown that the Israel people are against it, the majority of the Knesset is against it, protests and petitions have come from groups such as the OU and the ZOA. Yet the Palestinians claim that there can be no peace without handing over the holy city. What can Olmert do to satisfy Israel the Jewish People and make a peace with the terrorists at the same time.

Thankfully I have a solution, not only will it work but I got the Idea from an Arab, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad . Remember last week when he suggested that we move Israel to Alaska? We we can do the same thing with Arab East Jerusalem--move it. And I am willing to give the Arabs a lot more options--in fact I have an entire list of cities that they can pick to move East Jerusalem to:


  • Miami Beach Florida- This one is a no-brainier, their third holiest city for our third holiest city. We will throw in the "early bird" special dinners, and access to Miami's holiest site (the Fontainebleau Hotel).
  • Secaucus New Jersey-Remember that old song "Raucus in Secaucus"? This site is perfect for them, and the best part of it is no one in the United States will notice (except maybe NY Jet Fans but we would be much happier).
  • London, England- After all Tony Blair thinks Israel should be more flexible on Jerusalem, lets try and see how flexible the British can be. The good part of the solution is that Abbas' Fatah wouldn't have to set up satellite dishes for communications, the could use Prince Charles' ears.
  • Vatican City- Lets face it the Palestinian claim to Catholicism's Holy City is just as vailid as their claim to Judaism's. The extra benefit of this solution is that it might help repair the "bad vibes" between the Pope and Islam.
  • New York City- The "Jewish Lobby" needs a vacation--lets let the Palestinians Control the banks and media for a while.
  • Washington DC- This is probably the best solution of all. Think about it--we give away part of Washington, Condi Rice wont be able to force her Dhimmi solutions to the Mideast conflict upon Israel. We know that House Speaker Pelosi would endorse this one, after all she looked so go with her head covering when she visited Syria.
I know that there will be protests to any of these solutions, some may say, "how could you make up reasons to take away a city from a people who have an historic attachment, and give it to people who have no real claim to it?" Well let me answer those people like this:

I Agree.


An urgent Appeal

Young Israel USA and Young Israel in Israel, OU, Agudath Yisroel of America, etc.

You are speaking out loudly for a United Jerusalem. That is praiseworthy, indeed! Your united voice will certainly make a difference. The question, however, is what kind of a difference it will make. Mainstream Jewish organizations is uniting about publicly decrying a division of Jerusalem, yet it refrains from speaking out with the same conviction regarding opposition to a State of Palestine. Are you afraid to take a stand that is diametrically opposed to the Government of the United States? President Bush clearly wants to establish a State of Palestine. You are Silent. Does that mean that you agree? Is that implicit agreement? Have we not been taught shtika kehoda'a?!?

I know that the Rabbinic Leaders of your respective organizations will tell you a State of Palestine is a tragedy. But… will they say so publicly? If as a united voice they only speak up for Jerusalem then, by omission, it means that Yesha is expendable. Think about the dangers! We have then, by default, united to be SILENT on the subject of a Palestinian State. However, if we speak out with conviction against a State of Palestine, then any discussion about dividing Jerusalem ceases to be an option.

Young Israel has 150 member Synagogues. That means thousands of members. Agudath Yisroel has an extensive worldwide network. That means the voice of their rabbis, their representatives, their emissaries can influence hundreds of thousands of caring Jews. Agudath Yisroel of America has shown its ability to mobilize people in record time. The Yesha Leaders from the Yesha Council have in the past led their constituents to believe that they are proactive and, in the end, failed miserably! Will the tragedies of Gush Katif repeat itself, chas vesalom?!?

It is up to each individual to question the decision to remain silent regarding the establishment of the State of Palestine and to urge their Rabbinic Leaders and their affiliated shuls and organizations NOT TO BE SILENT regarding a future state of terrorists that is a direct threat to Israel and Jews around the world! The Jewish people should not allow their leadership to lead them to another Gush Katif! When the Nations of the world perceive total resolution, when they hear the clamoring and see a defense a defense of the entirety of Israel they will lose their brazenness in demanding Jerusalem.

Whoever gets this email in his or her office, pass it around to your friends of coworkers. Don't be afraid to speak out to the higher ups in your organization to be outspoken against the State of Palestine. Secretaries are our biggest advocates. Why does it only have to be the Christians that are Biblically correct and talk about G-d's given borders? Do we care less than the Christians about our Divinely given patrimony?

Sincerely,

Robin Ticker/ Shmuel Koenig initiators Rabbi Calling Campaign
CAJL (Conference of Authentic Jewish Leadership)